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Only the ones that truly lived it. Great relationship, so its hard for me to picture dynamics like what Shanann and Cindy had. She didnt stir the shit enough was her problem. His father worked as a Parts Manager for a Ford dealership. Sign up to receive our biggest stories as soon as theyre published. Chris sister, Jaime (at least its likely his sister), addresses briefly some of these very topics in a forum a couple months ago. *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-chp2Xo5Xo. We love you and forgive you, son., As for Ronnie, he said that he forgave his son for his actions too. We know what she was like. Whatever amount of attention Shanann wasted on this family was to much. Thank you for putting my thoughts into words (so eloquently). Surely that will be dealt with harshly at a later date. Thanks for the link JC. On that day Shanann posted a picture of her own mother for Mothers Day, gave credit to her husband for getting her the perfect Mothers Day gift, and also posted a cartoon dedicated to all the important women in her life but nothing on Cindy Watts. Pentagon to Mandate Vaccinations for All Servicemembers by Sept. 15, President Biden to halt travel to and from United States for Brazil, Ireland, UK and Europe, FAA says youll be fined $35,000 and sent to JAIL if you are unruly on a flight due to riots, World Health Organization Confirms China Refusing Entry to Epidemiologists, exclusive video obtained by Your Content set to debut Oct. 23. How would it look if there was a serious reaction? Id fight. That also echoes what Chris Watts said on the porch when a reporter mentioned a search dog going into the house, and the sidewalk crawling with cops and police cruisers. Archived post. Zoom in on his eyes. THAT is what Shanann was dealing with. A similar dynamic seems to have played out in the Watts family, minus the privileged status. There cant be a reason or any underlying dynamic leading to murder, nor can there be any premeditation. "Featuring Chris Watts, His Parents Cindy & Ronnie Watts and Sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, who - until now - managed to remain the MOST SECRETIVE and SILENT FIGURE in terms of the two. Powered by BlueHost . 2 counts Thats ridiculous . In Touch Weekly is part of the a360media Entertainment Group.Copyright a360media 2023. Youve heard of divorce, right? Agreed. He dumped their bodies like garbage. The incident at Cindis house where she exposed CeCe To nuts happened in July not on June 9th. Hate to say it but Shanann emasculated him verbally a lot. Didnt attend what? Nick has a pic on this site with him in a baseball uniform. Do your research. Be the first to know about the biggest stories as they break. Its simply an act of madness. God bless those poor victims. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Nick, they didnt attend the wedding because Shann,Ann fired Jamie and her children from the wedding a week earlier because Jamie couldnt get off work to attend the bridesmaids hair and nail events. I dont know what it is yet, you are someone I always felt had a pure heart, a good soul, no-one, no-one, could ever say anything bad about you. They even believed it was justified. What if he killed his (beautiful) children because, in some strange way, he was killing that child in himself, the one he loathed and felt great shame for. No. Locked post. Although both families essentially lived in the same town, they apparently did not know each other or regularly cross paths, so this would have been a valuable opportunity to get to know each other better, since the families would now be linked together via the happy couple. Considering dates are set in advance, there was probably more to it then Jamie not getting off work. It wouldnt surprise me if Cindy Watts talked to Chris after the nut explosion and said Look, I am so sick of Shanann and those girls, if you dont divorce her or just get rid of her then I will tell her about your affair. Part 5 is here: https://youtu.be/sjHc-ijQjXUWhy is it that Chris Watts's parents (Cindy Watts and Ronnie Watts) and and his sister (Jamie Lyn Williams) treat. Cookie Notice Look no further than his parents, especially his gum chewing, cold mother, to learn what made him a heartless, narcissistic, arrogant psychopath. Thank you! o His mother worked as a secretary and notary for a used car dealership. you can see that just in the text messages in the documentary. Mum killed alongside two kids has final moments revealed in evil What memories [and resentments] might this have triggered in Chris Watts two months before the murders? Certainly Chris's sister, Jamie, didn't. Jamie had kept well out of Chris and Shan'ann's life for years, since they'd kicked her out of their wedding, in fact. So rehash all the old disputes and wounds, nothing stands but his murderous actions. Chris Watts book Chris Watts' sister Jamie Watts. Divorce would have left them all with new lives. I think they were allowed video calls, though. If only his wife had a clue he was this dangerous, she could have had a fighting chance to get away from him. THAT DOES NOT GIVE CHRIS THE RIGHT TO DO WHAT HE DID. Anyone who left a child with the Watts family were completely ignorant of how truly dangerous it was. Ronnie and Chris seemed to get this yet it ate away at something inside them so much they both resorted to extreme measures to ultimately cope: Ronnie cocaine and Chris murder. I dont think a trial is the only way of getting to those skeletons, though. Oh Remember when we were at the splash party in Colorado? Her only mistake was marrying into a toxic family. Chris Watts got flowers for me yesterday for fun, Shanann Watts says on Thanksgiving Day. How was the prison video leaked of Chris Watts speaking with his sister Tension and stress. Maybe one day, snapped Watts. He never expected to be seriously challenged because everyone liked him and Mommy thought he was perfect. He experienced freedom while they were gone, and when they got back, he was probably overtaken by resentment that they stood between him and the mistress. Cindy insisted her son is not a sociopath and justice had not been served. Then she gave Bella an icecream with nuts in it and left CeCe with none as she did not buy any special nut free food. Chris Watts with his Sister Wife, Children & Relationships Chris met Shanann Watts in 2010; she was an independent representative for a multilevel marketing company called 'Le-vel,' which is focused on selling the wellness product called 'Thrive.' This sub is for factual information, mourning, and speculative discussion only - no harassment of the victims or family members. Chris Watts Wiki, Age, Girlfriend, Wife, Children, Family, Biography You say that he killed his family because he wanted a new life with his mistress, not because he disliked his wife, so did he kill his wife because he liked her then? Shanann tried to involve these in laws from hell. And you will., It is [hard], killer Chris Watts replied. Ten years later the Anthonys are still fighting to keep their home, Scott Petersons disliked or felt superior to Lacis, https://www.websleuths.com/forums/search/2228646/, Christopher Watts: What else do we know? Do you think Shanann would place nuts in some kids ice cream when she knew they were severely allergic to nuts like Cindy Watts did to Celeste?? Yes, a lot of mom denial. Chris Watts is a disgusting excuse for a human being. Their behavior spoke volumes. I would like to understand too, if he killed his kids, and I think he did, why he did it. Maybe one day?. There is right, and there is wrong. What he did was deplorable and disgusting beyond belief. I want to know why Shanann didnt think something would go horribly wrong visiting her in-laws without Chris being there. 2021 Original Media Group Corporation. Watts confessed to brutally murdering his pregnant wife Shanann, 34, and children Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. and our Cheers So this is way more than some Freudian spiel to overcome a supposedly dominant mother. Would you put your child, no seatbelt, in a car with a drunk driver? Haha, that was my own mother. Its always about control with these women. Just Like you. He was done with his wife as his narcissistic supply once he had a new girlfriend in Nichol Kessinger.His . Despicable And completely typical Narcissistic behavior. Those invested in the case have wondered why she has yet to speak out. His father was the disciplinarian in the family. You can have a nut true allergy to only one tree nut. And he knows he is being recorded. She had many faults within herself. That argument falls apart when you consider Shanann and Cindy didnt get along. i believe it was 100% premeditated by the family to give shannan the pills. Shanann was trying so damn hard to film a happy family moment, even calling out Poppa or Grandpa. Chris parents never looked back at her, waved or said one word. Am I to assume that you are the author of Cindys book? This community exists to discuss the murders of the Watts family and the subsequent arrest of Chris Watts. Monstrous dad Chris Watts was signaled to make up a story by his mother prior to pleading guilty to the murder of his pregnant wife and two daughters, exclusive video obtained by Your Content set to debut Oct. 23 reveals. And they can record all they want. Where the hell is she in all this? But she disregarded the allergies. Have a tip? She was human and had flaws just like all of us. The prison exclusive also showcases Watts sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, who managed to remain the most secretive and silent figure in terms of the two families sucked into this case thus far. Then there was a totally separate event an engagement party thrown by ShanAnns maid of honor Nichole Canady, which his family had zero part of. Play it back and the reporter has just mentioned the couple married in 2012. Chris Watts grew up somewhere on this road on the outskirts of Spring Didnt Shanann say a few times that Colorado meant a drama-free life? Chris Watts is a liar and like all sociopath narcissist did a smear campaign on Shanann. So Cindy Watts didn't attend her son's wedding. ive been thinking about this for a little while but does anyone else think that jamie gave chris the oxy?? Chris Watts 2012 Speech on Communication Speech, Relationship Deterioration and Repair; Chris Watts grew up somewhere on this road on the outskirts of Spring Lake, North Carolina. Shananns brother cared about everybody, saying he thought he had a brother, but Chriss mother cared more about making excuses for him than what he did, Shananns brother Frankie was charged with child abuse in 2015 or 2016. That has got to hurt, though, if Chris Watts and Shan'ann's big day was all about Shan'ann, and Chris' family weren't even there. So she travels to give them medicine or treatment. In front of Shanann was Chris dad holding hands with Bella and Chris mom walked beside his dad. Okay? New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. She works with patients in home care. Can I add that SW seemed like a classic shit stirrer too?? Other than wanting to see a trial, its difficult to see him other than as a very tarnished and very pathetic character. Would you let a child rapist babysit your kid? By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. We also know on June 9th, Shanann had a massive meltdown at Cindy Watts home, an event that occurred plumb in the middle between Mothers Day and Fathers Day. Total narcissism. They appeared to be walking through an open mall cafes, shops the sun was setting. If you dont get a chill, then I must be out to lunch. We just love you. This site isnt in any camp except the true crime camp, which means investigate sometimes dispassionately what happened, and why. Theres people who believe Chris is a good guy, there are people who believe hes a monster, and then there are people who understand the complexity of the human condition and what might drive a person to a psychotic break which I think is exactly what happened. Learn about the nut incident that happened when Shanann took the girls to his family for a visit. How could she be so without human empathy that Chris Wattss mother says its okay if he killed Shannan? His actions will never be justified. She completely shut me down. His father, Ronnie, chimed in adding, If he didnt kill the children, I want him to face that and let them prove it.. Whats more, Cindy Watts, 64, claims her son has immense public support noting she doesnt care about the murders. The Petersons were fairly wealthy when Scott Peterson was born, and he was spoiled and treated like a Golden Child. But opting out of some of these cookies may have an effect on your browsing experience. In March 2021, it was revealed that the pair were still in contact while he serves five life sentences at the Dodge Correctional Institution in Waupun, Wisconsin. bothered him. I think it makes more sense the theory if CW hated his mother and transferred this hate onto Shanann.. This mother in law was rude to her the first time they met. I do think it was horrible that they didnt go to the wedding. she literally works at a hospital so its very possible that she has close connections to patients that may be prescribed it or it may just be easy for her to get her hands on. Its so difficult for me to fathom not getting along your, Ill just call it same-sex in-law because it happens in both cases. Im not attempting to conflate the two choices, just the fact of the toll it took on them. Go ahead and make up stuff. Watts Family Tapes The Event ONLY on YouTube and Facebook October 23rd 9-11pm EST Add the event to your calendar here:. Cindy replied: No, I cant lose you. Maybe they are a bunch of people with personality disorders, but even people with personality disorders have their reasons to do bad stuff and even justify every bad stuff they do. But Cindy seems to have been quite down to Earth, simple and practical, and Shanann none of those things. Others on his approved list from 2019 include parents Ronnie and Cynthia Watts, sister Jamie Williams and three other friends. They had intended to go but felt they couldnt after this. I just read that: If its true that the sister deliberately didnt mail out the invitations then shame on her as that is just wrong. (With regard to CHRIS' background and upbringing.) But it does change the dynamics The wedding invitations the sister was in charge of but delibertely didnt mail out. If shed given Shannan a chance for the love of her son things may have been rosier. We won't post to any of your accounts without asking first. Does anyone know how the video* of the conversation between Chris Watts and his sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, was leaked to the internet? SW would have been smart (and kind and generous and all those other nice qualities she did not display toward her husband) in acknowledging how important CWs family was *to him* and making a strenuous effort to include them and build a friendly relationship with them. Chris Watts was clearly seen by his folks to be a perfect member of society, loved and liked by all [just like Scott Peterson]. Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. I bet so was Chris mom. Chris had CeeCee on his shoulders and Shanaan was walking next to them. Watts confessed to brutally murdering his pregnant wife Shanann, 34, and children Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. Theyre right of course, the murder of three members of ones nearest and dearest is an act of madness, but thats not the whole story. A pregnant woman in her 15th week, just getting home at 1:48am from a business trip, who was already in the separation process, isnt going to snap and kill her two children. I am not doing a book on this, interviews are not books. Chris Watts Sister Jamie Watts-Williams Tarot Reading 1,156 views Mar 17, 2021 Insightful Carrie 2.34K subscribers Dislike Share Join this channel to get access to perks:. 34-year-old Chris Watts pleaded guilty to first-degree murder and other charges in the killings of his wife, Shanann, 34, and their children Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, before crudely disposing of them at a isolated site where he worked. She made that post in a private allergy support page. My Sister's Closet Suzanne Singer Mr. & Mrs. William . His mother made him a monster. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. Cookie Notice Dear God so many people have been affected by this horrific disaster. No excuse for murder none at all. o His father worked as a Parts Manager for a Ford dealership. Maybe thats putting it too strongly: that if he did what he did they wouldnt blame him. Chris may have felt caught in the middle and reacted by withdrawing from the field of battle, went mute, then AWOL, then the dark side.>>>Very well put Nan. For more information, please see our A whole family of narcissists. They just cannot stand this woman including her own son, Hi Beth, well to begin with. But to just not send them? Both were high powered women, both were the in charge types, both married passive, easy going guys who seemed to be OK with doing things their wifes way. Such a terribly sad case. She should have wrote them ALL off from day one. Chris Watts: Voted most likely to succeed in the Class of 2003 Think of Ahab and Jezebel from the Bible. They were fighting, money problems ,being sued by the homeowners association. The sister wanted to get involved in the wedding planning nad volunteered to do the invitations. This was supposed to be a beautiful time in Shannans and Chris life. That had nothing to do with it. Your stories not over. Theres no such thing as all good or all bad. Jump to Sections of this page I have been able to skim through the 2,000 pages of investigation notes. Would you let her walk around a tall building with no railing? Having said that, for CW parents to feel so strongly about Shannan that they didnt attend their own sons wedding then there must be a whole lot more to this that we dont know or understand. Chris Watts - Bio, Age, Net Worth, Height, Nationality, Facts Im not going to name them. After after she is brutally murdered along with her children, her husbands family is waging a smear campaign against her and trying to salvage their own public image. Scan this QR code to download the app now, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-chp2Xo5Xo. No, you dont get that she had a problem. True Crime Analysis, Breakthroughs, Insights & Discussions Hosted by Bestselling Author Nick van der Leek. She was, she was you and I know its so hard for you. Yes, Shanann had a problem that Chris mother deliberately chose to feed her little girl some that could KILL HER. So sad. This blog is meant to make only passing commentary of numerous issues and insights. Privacy Policy. She lost her marbles because a kid sat down with another kid and started eating some ice cream they got from the freezer. The nut incident. He is a prison success story and she risked that reputation. He was in North Carolina August 1-7, 2018.Growing up, his family attended First Baptist Church on a fairly regular basis. Chris and Nikkis affair started at the end of June, lasted through July and into August until Chris murdered his family. My question to Cindy Watts is who the hell would and could get along with you? They say its victim blaming, but a lot of the people who say that are also current or former MLMs and they identify very directly with her. Killing his own child insideI think its the opposite. One of the primary activities at a wedding is to enable the two sides of the family to meet and get to know each other. He was sentenced to three consecutive life terms in prison plus 84 years in Nov. 2018 for his heinous crimes. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I want you, then, if this is your decision, then you get in there and make something [inaudible]. Exclusive Prison Visit with the Colorado Killer Chris Watts and His But one way or another theyre coming out. Perhaps you could learn more before commenting with over the top emotion. Talking about his family, Chris's parents are his mother Cindy Watts, and his father Ronnie Watts. Chris Watts rebellious sister Jamie drops Watts - Was loved by Chris Watts Wife,chris watts,shanann watts,bella watts,true crime,watts family murders,jamie watts,cindy watts,full story,watts,nichol kessinger,shanann,christopher watts, dr phil chris watts, dr phil chris watts full spisode, chris watts dr phil chris watts sister, tv newsChris Watts rebellious sister Jamie drops Watts - Was loved by Chris Watts Wifehttps://youtu.be/6u1L9jeh434JAMIE is seven years older than him. He gets along well with JAMIE and her husband. Now we know why. Only someone who is mad could possibly kill his whole family. Would you put your child, no seatbelt, in a car with a drunk driver. I see your point. WATTS [Licks lips]: Im so happy that theyre here. I saw an interview with one of Chris Watts former mistresses, not Nichol but the one before her. (His defense attorney) shut me down. CW's sister Jamie : r/Chriswatts - Reddit We know because the babysitter told the police all this during her interview with them. What a shitty thing to do. The Watts family seems so weird and like they're missing the empathy "gene." This thread is archived Who Is Chris Watts's Prison Girlfriend, Anna Nowak? Yes, I can understand that Cindy might be in denial but I cannot understand her lack of compassion for Shanann -even after her death, Cindy acts like her daughter-in-law deserved it. It was more about the supervision for Shannan than it was about anything else and she flipped her lid and the kids were hiding behind the curtains because they were scared. I feel so terrible for the family of Shannon and the children. To me, all they wanted to do was save his life, just save his life. Shanann was the dominant force, definitely not Cindy. Reddit - Dive into anything Shannan seems like the type of person who would be really difficult to live with and difficult to satisfy. He just saw JAMIE and her family during his recent visit to North Carolina. She was you. Although she deleted her account shortly after posting these comments, I do believe this was likely Jaime Williams attempting to defend her brothers character and reputation. In 2019, Watts told author Cherlyn Cadle, who penned her explosive book Letters from Christopher, If I had not met Nikki, I would never have killed my family., The Colorado native allegedly tried to cause Shanann to miscarry their son Nico, giving her the powerful painkiller Oxycodone, after Nichol told Watts she wanted to give him his first son.. Following their sons admission, Ronnie and Cindy Watts protected Chris innocence, claiming his lawyer talked him into confessing to a crime with mounting evidence against him whether he committed those acts or not. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I note from the discovery file she also had a troubled relationship with SW so it would interesting to know more. Love your take. That isnt even what happened. We know what she was like. I definitely was watching Chris body language, and at that point in time, he definitely could have been freaking out because his wife was gone and his children were gone, but I just personally thought the way he was acting was a little strange, he said. And his father enabled it. There was a stolen set of manuscript notes which are not a book, but interview notes. Archived post. Secondly, my impression while researching the Scott Peterson case was that the Petersons didnt think that much of Laci, or Lacis family. We dont have to like or even try to get with *in-laws*.there could be many reasons behindWhy. Chris Watts. Due to lack of knowledge. Do I think Shanann was a saint? The WCNC reporter says a word in response to the no-show by the Watts family at their sons wedding. Cindi should never have tried to expose CeCe to nuts. According to sources in the know his sister and mother are behind this awful Facebook page and people from it send horrible stuff to shananns parents and police are aware and are investigating. he met Nicky Kessinger and wanted a fresh new start, and to an empty vessel of a soul narcissist, that meant eliminating his family, not divorcing his wife, but eliminating her. Chris just saw red and let his moms words take over. A MUM killed alongside her two kids has had her final moments revealed in her evil husband's sick prison letters. While Chris parents have been vocal about their son, his sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, remains silent. I just find it odd that shes been totally MIA in this investigation, one reddit user questioned. Mothers Day fell on May 12th. The footage shows the 33-year-old buying a . Why put the nuts out knowing it could set Shannan off? That is a losing battle. Chris, I forgive you, and your sister forgives you and we will never abandon you.. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. "Where the hell. Jamie Middleton Kerry Milligan Jodi Noble Julie Pierce Kimberlee Reimann Padilla* Ann Siner* Sue Singer Dr. Craig Thatcher* Cindy Treacy Cindy Watts Daryl Weil Dr. Kathy Wigal Patty Withycombe Susan Yannitelli *Arizona Humane Society Board of Directors. Chris Watts Prison Interview High Quality Audio (Removed A/C Noise) He became intolerant of these ongoing family issues once he started his affair with Nikki. This suggests Mothers Day and Fathers Day in 2018, in the Watts home, were hugely significant milestones, particularly with a third baby on the way. Though I have no idea how he can sleep at night definitely didnt end up with the mistress being in jail and all. I think the pro Shanann camp needs to remember that discussing WHY Chris killed Shanann is NOT justifying what he did. New comments cannot be posted. Both these families, had multiple discord amongst them all. 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